The research continues…
Having received two feedbacks from my first post, I admit I had to revamped some of the information posted. However, I encourage you to read further below. Plus I could not ignore the points brought forward.
By poster's from previous post in comment section:
"End of 1st Trimester and Beginning of Second": To be clear, Supposed Pregnancy is around end of 13 weeks and start of week 14 (i.e. 3 months or beginning of 4th)
June 1 - beginning of 3 months
July 1 - beginning of 4 months
August 1 - beginning of 5 months
September 1 - beginning of 6 months
October 1 - beginning of 7 months
November 1 - beginning of 8 months
December 1 - beginning of 9 months
January 1 - overdue or delivered
note: 1st trimester (weeks 1 to end week 13); 2nd trimester (weeks 14 to end week 26); 3rd trimester (week 27 until birth)
Initially, I had thought of end of January 2011. However, I strongly reconsidered about her being full-term and delivered at end of January / early February 2011. Only because she will need to take time to recover from birthing AND get back in shape prior to competiting on 4CC 2011 (February 12).
So, I will stick with end of December (if on time) or beginning January 2011 (if overdue) as the possible (but not verified) full-term due date and delivery.
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The comments and links about “some women don't show”:
I agree and disagree the post. My reasons being:
Most cases, stories of women who have been pregnant and didn't know are, in fact, already bigger in size (i.e chubby/big boned, etc.) pre-pregnancy.
This fact excludes Tessa (as photos/fans would suggest). (See below)
Most cases, stories of women who have been pregnant and didn't know are, in fact, already bigger in size (i.e chubby/big boned, etc.) pre-pregnancy.
This fact excludes Tessa (as photos/fans would suggest). (See below)
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| Pre Olympics and During Olympics Photos |
From the various comments from baby boards, I did read that some show much later…and up to 6 months. But it’s not concrete proof because most of these women who post don't give their weight and height pre-pregnancy. So, it is understood that one who is already small and slender in comparison to one who’s big(her) and tall WILL, of course, differ in appearance of how they carry their babies.
Finally, the likely comment: “people say I am tiny/small belly”, only indicates that they are in fact visibly pregnant (with belly protruding) but not the size they expected it to be and pointed out by others. But most who respond do tell ones asking when they do show…
Only, comments found (with certainty) that you will show up later in the 3rd trimester and that I fully understood as a visible pregnancy in the end of full-term pregnancy)…
Again, NO PROOF of one who is pregnant AND not show at all - unless as mentioned earlier, one who is already bigger in size (i.e. chubby/big boned/fat).
Again, NO PROOF of one who is pregnant AND not show at all - unless as mentioned earlier, one who is already bigger in size (i.e. chubby/big boned/fat).
I can not dispute this very fact in the lines of AVERAGE MAJORITY of mothers-to-be):-
Tessa is of average height 5’5” and of average weight (if not less) - slender in figure, so there is HIGHER possibility she WOULD show (meaning, visibly protruding belly type scenerio) especially at the last trimester (i.e. 7-9 months), the least.
Like this,
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| 8 months ... 9 months ... |
Of course, the model picture (above) is used as reference
only because she's somewhat similar in figure to Tessa before she was pregnant
and yes, the size of the baby can be smaller or bigger.
However, whether a woman carrying a baby forward or towards the back,
does NOT make that woman NOT show at all...
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Since my last post, a poster had corrected me on some of my findings. (In, which I am grateful for). Following that, I had also discovered more events on November 2010 (i had missed OR incorrectly included in previous post)
There are CRUCIAL NEW FINDS (after doing my first article) FOCUSING ONLY ON MONTH OF NOVEMBER 2010
November 2010 (8 month pregnancy stage)
Therefore, the amended November events are as follows (so far):
Public Appearance on CBC for Interview (LIVE) (November 1, 2010)
- refer to previous post for Youtube video
Book Signing at Toronto’s Roots Store (November 2, 2010)*** (NEW FIND)
PJ Kwong News Piece (October 30, 2010)
- provided TWO dates for book signings in Toronto area
Fan photos of Tessa and Scott at Toronto's Roots Store
Public Appearance at Press Club’s Newsmakers’ Hall of Fame (November ? 2010)*** (NEW FIND)
Main Page for ALL November 2010 Events
http://www.snaplondon.ca/index.php?option=com_sngeditions&id[]=1372
*** please copy and paste link onto your browser to get it working
*** please copy and paste link onto your browser to get it working
*** images are located downwards 5th snapshot (on your left) link to article
Official photos of Tessa and Scott’s attendance at Hall of Fame
http://www.snaplondon.ca/index.php?option=com_sngevents&id[]=209088
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| Tessa in pretty hunter green dress (side view)... |
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| ...on her full 7 month and beginning of 8th month pregnancy??? |
Better (close up) photos of the photos above from taken from fan site
http://www.fanforum.com/f88/scott-moir-ღ-tessa-virtue-♥-61-~-because-shes-my-biggest-fan%3B-shes-my-cheerleader-62975445/
*** Unable to determine exact date based on article. However, Fan site thread post dated November 2 prior to Book Signing may indicate it could have happened on some time around November 1 or November 2.
The Q - Radio/TV interview with Jian Ghomeshi (aired November 3, 2010)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvvty-7zV9s
Gemini Awards 2010 (Behind the Scene and Official Photo Ops) (November 12)*** (NEW FIND PHOTOS)
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| Tessa @ Gemini Awards Tastemaker Lounge |
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| Highlighted Photo With Belly and Waist Exposed (close to 8 1/2 month of pregnancy?) |
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| Dress Shape after brightening photo |
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| Another clearer photo without lines |
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| Abdominal muscle at work... |
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| At Official Ceremony Photo Op Carpet (perhaps, she's carrying baby really, really low as to hide under the ruffles) |
My question: (based on poster's estimated pregnancy date AND the November photos of Hall of Fame up till now)...
if indeed the idea that she is in her close to mid 8 months pregnancy stage (!) and “carrying the baby towards the back of the mother’s belly (i.e. anterior of the the uterus)”, …
if indeed the idea that she is in her close to mid 8 months pregnancy stage (!) and “carrying the baby towards the back of the mother’s belly (i.e. anterior of the the uterus)”, …
Where is the bulge or “widening of her waist” to indicate so???
Shouldn't she actually at this point be covering up ALL the time...
Better yet, pick any week it should be: 16 weeks (4 months); 20 weeks (5 months); 24 weeks (6 months); 28 weeks (7 months); 32 weeks (8 months)
...Or perhaps because she's supposed to carry the baby "towards the back of the uterus", she must look like this...
Lastly,
Who wore it best?...
News Article(s):*** NEW FIND
http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/11/02/scott-moir-and-tessa-virtue/
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TO BE CONTINUED....
First, you have to stop with the using photos of typical pregnancies as a reference point to try to "prove" that Tessa wasn't pregnant. If there are a million different pregnant woman, there will be a million different pregnancies. Your usage of this typical belly progression photos is not applicable to Tessa's pregnancy. You keep referencing back to them like they're some holy grail of pregnancy. They're not. They outline how the pregnancies of random women from the internet progressed--women who were not Tessa Virtue and who had a different pregnancies than Tessa's. I'm stealing this line, but you have to compare Tessa to Tessa in her pre- and post-pregnancy forms.
ReplyDeleteAlso, you still don't have the timeline entirely correct for Tessa's pregnancy.
I suggested you google "woman who don't show" to demonstrate the possibility in general of women not showing. No, the various woman online haven't posted pictures of themselves, but you think all of them are lying? Have you never met a woman in real life who didn't show or didn't show until very late in the pregnancy. And, for the record, Tessa's shape did change from her non-pregnant shape. She may have shown differently than the majority of woman. She may have not as been as large as other woman who carry to the back. Her figure did change though, which one would define as showing.
You say this:
"Tessa is of average height 5’5” and of average weight (if not less) - slender in figure, so there is HIGHER possibility she would show (meaning, visibly protruding belly type scenerio) especially at the last trimester (i.e. 7-9 months), the least."
To me, this indicates that you show a lack of understanding of possibility, probability, and certainty. Possibility and probability are not the same thing as certainty. You're trying to use "higher probability" as proof of 100% certainty that Tessa would have looked a particular way at a particular point in her pregnancy. That's not how things work. To use one example, a certain disease may bring with it a 94% probability/possibility of death. Pretty high there, but death isn't a certainty because 6% of people live. I think most of us do expect that smaller woman are going to carry in a more typical fashion, but it's not a 100% certainty and a high probability of something isn't the same thing as it being 100%. Therefore, you cannot use such a broad-leap assumption as proof of Tessa not being pregnant.
You should look up the stats on actress Hunter Tylo, who also concealed a pregnancy as she was pregnant with her second child during a trial regarding pregnancy discrimination in her first pregnancy. Hunter Tylo is about the same size/build as Tessa, if not a little smaller, and no one knew she was late in her second pregnancy.
"It is also a REAL proven fact that women who just delivered DO NOT have their stomach flat/pre-pregnant as soon as they deliver a baby"
No, I agree, they don't. But Tessa didn't literally go from the delivery room straight to competing at 4CC. There was a good 6-7 weeks there. I had a friend who is a tiny person in real life and who didn't gain more weight than was necessary for a healthy pregnancy. She was back in some of her pre-pregnancy clothes 2 weeks after giving birth. It's worth pointing out that Tessa was not down to her pre-pregnancy weight by 4CC. She wasn't even down to it by worlds in 2011.
There are exercises that woman can begin about 24 hours after a normal birth to help mom start getting her stomach back. There are also special bands (kind of like spanx) that women can wear postpartum to help.
And when it comes to weight loss, would you say elite athlete Tessa Virtue is a normal woman who it would take a full year to lose all of her baby weight?
I find it hysterical that you posted to this set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rootscanada/sets/72157625180538409/with/5143026765/ As there is a picture where you can clearly see the top of Tessa's baby bump: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rootscanada/5143026773/in/set-72157625180538409
ReplyDeleteIn the other photos, she was photographed for the front her she's partially obscured by other objects and angles. Again, optical illusion.
Again, you're getting dates wrong. The Hall of Fame thing was in September, not November. If you look at post 6 in the fanforum thread that you linked, the poster indicates that the Newsmakers Hall of Fame photos were super old. The photos were from an earlier point in the pregnancy, and if you compare to Tessa's normal size (pre- and post-pregnancy), she's quite a bit thicker and wider.
The Gemini Awards, again. In the tastemaker's lounge photos, Tessa was shot pretty much from the front. In those off-ice pics from ATS LA, I showed a pic from the front and a pic from the side. In the pic from the front, she didn't look pregnant. In the pic from the side, you can make out her bump. Even in the ones where she's slightly angled, the placement of her hand and the jacket help to disguise how much thicker and wider she is. It's optical illusion. What also helps is that Tessa's boobs got bigger along with her getting thicker. We were used to seeing her breasts and abdomen appear to be a certain ratio in regards to each other. That was sort of maintained, so it contributes to the illusion in photographs.
I'm laughing so hard about the formal dress she wore for the actual awards show. Do you not understand how a high-waisted dress like that is made and how dresses in that style fit? The top is fitted only around the breasts, and then the skirt, made with a million yards of fabric, flares out from the sides of the body. When you trace the dress shape in the skirt part, the flaring out to the side is not the contours of Tessa's body. That's the dress sticking out (by design) to make it look like she had a normal waist at that point, even though she didn't. The bow on the dress is not at her natural waist. Tessa's natural waist is well below that point.
Try on a dress made like that the next time you're in a department store with formal wear. You'll see what I mean about how they're made and fit.
She was around 7 1/2 months here, btw.
I know you've deemed yourself an amateur investigator and seem to think you're finding stuff that no one has seen before. However, finding photos and videos on the internet is not investigating, and we have seen all of this stuff previously. If you want to investigate for real, you have to get off of google image search and youtube, and start talking to people. The people who know for a fact that Tessa and Scott are married and have a child didn't decide all of this by looking at pictures on the internet. They found proof by asking questions out in the real world. It doesn't matter how many photos you post or what you think. It doesn't change the truth that Virtue and Moir are married parents.
Here's a very fit girl at 28 weeks. It looks like she's swallowed a large sandwich.
ReplyDeletehttp://mommyslittlesunshine.blogspot.com/2012/01/week-28.html?m=1
God people here are disgustingly obsessed with something that never happened. If you have so much proof of her actually being pregnant come forward with the pictures, you put down this blog but offer no proof of you own except for 'she was pregnant' like she had a completely flat stomach. If you guys want to claim she was pregnant come with so proof. Or she some pictures of woman who don't show with a completely flat stomach, like at almost 9 months a 5-9 pound baby would show. God these people are pathetic.
ReplyDeleteAnd why would Tessa and Scott hide this? They don't have any reason to. I think its funny what truthy up there said yet she doesn't have a shred of proof, and she probably got her information from google pictures lol, fucking losers get a life making up a life for these 2 people in you sad lonely little heads is too funny!
ReplyDeleteTruthy Jones you yourself were looking up pictures so how does wha you said make any sense? you investigated this ghost pregnancy looking up images and on forums just like the author you fucking idiot
ReplyDeleteI know you've deemed yourself an amateur investigator and seem to think you're finding stuff that no one has seen before. However, finding photos and videos on the internet is not investigating, and we have seen all of this stuff previously. If you want to investigate for real, you have to get off of google image search and youtube, and start talking to people. The people who know for a fact that Tessa and Scott are married and have a child didn't decide all of this by looking at pictures on the internet. They found proof by asking questions out in the real world. It doesn't matter how many photos you post or what you think. It doesn't change the truth that Virtue and Moir are married parents.
March 4 @9:29
ReplyDelete"Truthy Jones you yourself were looking up pictures so how does wha you said make any sense? you investigated this ghost pregnancy looking up images and on forums just like the author you fucking idiot"
Please read my comments on this post and the other post again so what I actually said will perhaps make sense to you. Where did I say I investigated or know this solely by photos? That's your very incorrect assumption. How I personally know for a fact that Tessa and Scott are married and the parents of a three-year daughter is through offline connections. I know Tessa was pregnant so I approached this as posting photos outlining how Tessa's shape changed from her normal size. The fact that I posted images does not change that I know Virtue and Moir are married with a child via information I know from offline connections.
Making the suggestion to get off the internet and investigate by asking questions in the real world was my suggestion to Shelley Holmes and everyone else reading because it's how all of us who know for fact know.
if you know it personally why would you reveal it? thats quite an asshole move tbh
DeleteIt's interesting really ... if indeed one is already "in-the-know" group, you'd certainly be able to actually pin exactly on what months she's actually pregnant on any given events she's in AND when the baby was born.
DeleteA fact that is true is that Tessa never had breasts only when she was supposed pregnant...
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